Creating Inclusive Teams
August 28, 2023Darin Latimore, MD
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- 00:00So all that my colleague just said about me,
- 00:04Forget it. This is the real
- 00:07Darren Lattimore on the screen.
- 00:08This is what's actually important.
- 00:11As the Deputy Reverse Equity inclusion,
- 00:14I want to be very clear that I am
- 00:17here for each and every one of you.
- 00:19Unfortunately, many times people will think
- 00:21that I'm only here for certain identities.
- 00:24Please, please leave that at the door.
- 00:26If you feel that you have ideas on
- 00:28how to make this a more inclusive
- 00:31environment for all, come visit me.
- 00:33If you feel that we have some work to do
- 00:37to make this a more inclusive environment,
- 00:39please, please, please come visit me.
- 00:42Do not, do not,
- 00:44do not experience inappropriate
- 00:46behavior in isolation.
- 00:48There is no need for that
- 00:53if you guys are old enough and I'm
- 00:56dating myself to remember Superfly.
- 00:58Yes, my father literally walked
- 01:01through life with that persona.
- 01:03And if you know anything about the
- 01:05religion of Jehovah Witnesses,
- 01:07very conservative.
- 01:08How those two got together talking
- 01:10about opposites attracting, but they
- 01:13came out with three beautiful children.
- 01:15Next slide please pull out
- 01:18your phones for me.
- 01:20You can do this one or two ways.
- 01:21The easiest way is to take
- 01:23a picture of the QR code.
- 01:28Are
- 01:38we ready? Yeah, if everybody's
- 01:40hold on, I see a couple
- 01:43people still taking pictures.
- 01:44Is anyone having difficulty
- 01:45getting in? Just need like
- 01:50a minute or two.
- 01:51OK. Next slide please.
- 01:52So for the next set of questions,
- 01:55I want you to think about the
- 01:57last 2-3 years of your life,
- 01:59be it and whatever what you call
- 02:01your science or your clinical work,
- 02:03whatever that looks like,
- 02:06whom did you collaborate with?
- 02:08And I want you to create
- 02:10a visual for yourself.
- 02:11What were their identities of
- 02:13whom you collaborated most with
- 02:16over the last two to three years?
- 02:18And now I'm going to ask
- 02:20you a couple of questions.
- 02:21Next slide please.
- 02:23So for the very first one,
- 02:25I want you to create a word cloud for me.
- 02:28Now let's leave those people that are leaders
- 02:32whom we couldn't wait to get away from,
- 02:35Let's leave them on the bench.
- 02:37Let's think about the
- 02:39leaders who inspired us,
- 02:41the leaders who helped us get to the
- 02:43seat that we are sitting in now.
- 02:45What were their traits?
- 02:47What were their attributes?
- 02:49How did they communicate?
- 02:52And you literally will type in your phone,
- 02:55one word answers.
- 02:56You can type as many as you
- 02:57want and then hit enter.
- 02:59And we're going to create a word
- 03:01cloud as to the group's ideal leader,
- 03:04what does that look like,
- 03:05feel like to you?
- 03:11So please, please hold on to
- 03:13these words. Matter of fact,
- 03:14you may want to take a picture
- 03:19because my goal for the next 30 minutes
- 03:21is to to basically encourage you to
- 03:28realize that you are now that leader
- 03:33and to remind you what actually
- 03:36a true leader feels like.
- 03:43Supportive, Responsive.
- 03:46Collaborative. Kind, inclusive,
- 03:50transparent. Any of those words,
- 03:52any of them are they I words,
- 03:58not a single one of them.
- 04:01So being a leader is not about you,
- 04:02a really good leader.
- 04:06It's about the we and the team.
- 04:11Next slide please.
- 04:15I only want people who
- 04:17identify as women or nonbinary.
- 04:19To answer this question. Again,
- 04:21go back to the last two to three years.
- 04:23Who are your main collaborators
- 04:25in your science?
- 04:26Whatever that looks like?
- 04:28Only women in the room answer,
- 04:29please. Or nonbinary.
- 04:30Were they the same gender as
- 04:33you or a different gender?
- 04:40Men. Everybody.
- 04:42Actually, everybody.
- 04:43Look at this picture.
- 04:44So we got for women.
- 04:47I'm not 29% says this is true.
- 04:5071% says it's not true for women.
- 04:53Next slide, please. Men only
- 04:57your main collaborators of
- 04:58the last two to three years.
- 05:00Same gender as you.
- 05:02Different gender than you.
- 05:07How does this work?
- 05:14How does this work?
- 05:17Next slide, please,
- 05:21everyone from your perception of
- 05:25other people's identities, same race,
- 05:28ethnicity as you, different. And again,
- 05:30I'm talking about your main collaborators,
- 05:32people you work the most closely with. Oh, I
- 05:37love it. I guess I can sit down.
- 05:42And then last question for you,
- 05:45again, making some assumptions
- 05:47about people's political beliefs,
- 05:49most of your collaborators, do you believe,
- 05:52hold the same political stripes
- 05:54as yourself or the exact opposite.
- 06:01So just based on what we've seen,
- 06:05how truly diverse are collaborators?
- 06:11I know if we were, if I asked the question,
- 06:13oh, I work with very diverse groups of
- 06:15people is the answer that I always get.
- 06:20But based on what we've
- 06:21just said to each other,
- 06:24is there room for improvement?
- 06:27Next slide please. And I'd like
- 06:29to take over at this point. I
- 06:39turned it on. That'd be helpful, huh?
- 06:41OK, I'm using diversity in a very,
- 06:43very broad way. I am not looking
- 06:46at it on any specific identity.
- 06:49I'm thinking about it in the way
- 06:51we actually think and process.
- 06:53Now those are actually very much
- 06:56dictated by our experiences.
- 06:58So there is a very strong correlation
- 07:00between our identities and our
- 07:02cognitive diversity and our honesty.
- 07:04But I don't want us to be limited or bound
- 07:08by what we call boxes of identities.
- 07:14Why is this important?
- 07:15Now, I'll be honest with you, there is
- 07:17literature that's all over the board,
- 07:19and we can have a conversation.
- 07:20Why some literature, which I'm going
- 07:22to show you just one sampling says the
- 07:25diversity actually leads to excellence.
- 07:26And then there's other literature that
- 07:28says it's neutral, and in some cases
- 07:31there's literature that's harmful.
- 07:32Again, if we want to have a conversation
- 07:35about why I think the neutral and harmful
- 07:37are wrong, I'd be more than glad.
- 07:39But at the moment I'm going to
- 07:40harp on the positive.
- 07:42So this study, which is a recent study,
- 07:44looked at publications from across
- 07:47the country, and you can see they
- 07:49looked at quite a few publications.
- 07:51What they were looking at was
- 07:53the authorship and the gender.
- 07:55And this,
- 07:55it's a more than one system that
- 07:57you can use to determine a person's
- 07:59gender based on their names.
- 08:01We can have a conversation about
- 08:03the appropriateness of that,
- 08:04but that's how it's done.
- 08:07And what they were trying to
- 08:09figure out is if the authorship is
- 08:12all one gender either direction,
- 08:14does it impact or correlate,
- 08:16let me restate that,
- 08:18correlate with novelty and they're
- 08:21using novelty very specifically here.
- 08:23And that is,
- 08:25are you pulling different concepts
- 08:29together instead of concepts that have
- 08:31historically already been matched together?
- 08:33And the way they come to that conclusion,
- 08:35which is how it's done,
- 08:37is looking at who or what you're
- 08:39referencing and how often those
- 08:41references are combined in the past
- 08:44versus is this a novel combination.
- 08:46And then the second thing
- 08:48they looked at is citation,
- 08:51was this publication in the top 5%
- 08:55or not for that particular year?
- 08:57And then they averaged that over time.
- 08:59And then what they really just wanted
- 09:02to see is does gender diversity team on
- 09:04the team correlate in any way up down
- 09:07the sideways with those two things.
- 09:11And what they find 1st and most important,
- 09:14which is a wonderful thing is that
- 09:16gender diversity of teens actually
- 09:18has improved significantly over the
- 09:19decade in which they actually studied.
- 09:21But having said that,
- 09:23as our own little audit of
- 09:26ourselves clearly showed,
- 09:28we still have a lot of work to do.
- 09:31Women are still not invited on
- 09:32teams of men in the proportion of
- 09:35which they are in the environment.
- 09:37So as you are thinking about your teens,
- 09:40be very cognizant of who is
- 09:43being included and who is not.
- 09:48They also found mixed gender teens actually
- 09:50came up with more novel mixed gender teens
- 09:54actually came up with cited more often,
- 09:56and the closer to parity that you have 5050,
- 10:03the more novel, the more citations.
- 10:10What they also found is that the
- 10:13more mixed gender that you had,
- 10:15you ended up with diversity,
- 10:17bringing diversity and as you
- 10:21can see that correlated with
- 10:22multiple different diversities,
- 10:24including actually having more
- 10:26diverse expertise on your team
- 10:29instead of duplication of the
- 10:31same expertise on the team,
- 10:33which is very common.
- 10:34When we ask people whom we
- 10:35know and are very comfortable
- 10:36with to be part of our team,
- 10:46I could cite you and which would
- 10:48be older studies looking at race,
- 10:51ethnicity in the very same way,
- 10:54and you will find exactly the same thing.
- 10:57Authorships that are more diverse,
- 10:59racial and ethnically have higher H
- 11:02indexes and have higher citations.
- 11:08But having said that, again in that
- 11:10study too showed we are much more likely
- 11:14to author with people of our own race,
- 11:17ethnicity out of proportion to the
- 11:20availability of diversity within our spaces.
- 11:23So again, be very thoughtful about
- 11:26who we're collaborating with and why.
- 11:29Is it really, truly for the right
- 11:32reasons or is it out of comfort?
- 11:34And what is familiar,
- 11:39diversity increases perspectives.
- 11:42Again, cognitive diversity,
- 11:45which aligns very much with experiences,
- 11:48leads to more perspectives.
- 11:52It can be uncomfortable,
- 11:55but diversity disrupts group thinking.
- 11:58That needs to be managed.
- 12:00I'll be the first one to say,
- 12:02but that disruption slows us down so
- 12:05that we're actually way more analytical
- 12:08about what we're talking about and
- 12:11much less likely to actually make
- 12:13mistakes or go down the wrong path.
- 12:15Again, that is the value,
- 12:18quite frankly, but I must admit,
- 12:21if not managed by the leaders in this room,
- 12:24can be messy
- 12:27networks.
- 12:32Each of us has a very individual network.
- 12:35But in our honesty, if we're honest about it,
- 12:38our networks tend to be people very
- 12:41similar to ourselves, based on gender,
- 12:44based on race, ethnicity,
- 12:46based on political beliefs, etc.
- 12:49So when you bring more
- 12:50diverse people together,
- 12:52the accumulative network is much
- 12:53broader than when you bring people
- 12:56who are very similar together.
- 12:58The networks have
- 12:59significant overlap, usually
- 13:07going to come inward, focus a little bit.
- 13:10So inclusivity, a goal of the institution,
- 13:15the goal of the School of Medicine
- 13:17and definitely a goal of my office.
- 13:19A couple, I'm just going to give you a couple
- 13:21of examples with what our officers doing.
- 13:22The institution and the school are doing,
- 13:24many, many more things.
- 13:25But I just want to make sure you as
- 13:28new faculty know about a couple of
- 13:31opportunities if you are so interested.
- 13:33So the first one is more minority
- 13:37organization on retention and expansion.
- 13:39It is a organization for faculty
- 13:42members who actually identify with
- 13:45or allies of people who identify
- 13:48as underrepresented in Madison.
- 13:50If you are either of the above,
- 13:52I would strongly advocate that you consider
- 13:56coming to the reception on the 17th.
- 14:00As you can see from the picture,
- 14:01about 150 people show up.
- 14:04There is no better networking
- 14:06session that you're going to attend
- 14:08at Yale School of Medicine.
- 14:09I'll be very honest with you,
- 14:11there will be learners there.
- 14:12There'll be faculty there,
- 14:14there will be leadership there and there
- 14:16will be community who are not Yale there.
- 14:19Again,
- 14:19will strongly advocate the two cochairs,
- 14:22and I apologize this is
- 14:24not showing up correctly.
- 14:26Are shown there and if you
- 14:27have any questions,
- 14:28feel free about the organization itself.
- 14:30Reach out.
- 14:32Committee on the Status of Women
- 14:35in Medicine and Science Swim.
- 14:39Every department has a swim liaison,
- 14:42so no matter which department
- 14:45you're stepping into,
- 14:46if this is of interest to you,
- 14:48please reach out to your liaison
- 14:50and they can actually give you a
- 14:53good idea of all the activities.
- 14:54The two cochairs are there.
- 14:59The Deans at Wow,
- 15:01this is not showing up, right.
- 15:03The Deans Advisory Council on
- 15:06LGTQI Plus Affairs, which we just
- 15:09called DAC has multiple subgroups.
- 15:12This one, although it is run by faculty,
- 15:16learners and staff are part of this
- 15:18one versus the two I just said,
- 15:20which are just purely faculty
- 15:25and the cochairs are there.
- 15:29How off the presses, Haven't even
- 15:31had their first meeting yet.
- 15:33The Asian Faculty Association at Yale.
- 15:35Now this is a university wide association.
- 15:39The ones that I showed you before
- 15:41were Yale School of Medicine centric
- 15:45and I'm going to apologize in advance.
- 15:48Young Lee and Jin are the two Co chairs.
- 15:52Again, this one's hot off the presses,
- 15:53so if you are all interested in learning
- 15:56more, please reach out to them.
- 15:57They know I'm saying their names out loud,
- 15:59so they'll be expecting emails.
- 16:02There is one more group
- 16:04which is much more informal,
- 16:07doesn't have a website and therefore I'm not
- 16:09going to show the pictures and everything.
- 16:11But I do want you to know also if you happen
- 16:14to identify as part of the Jewish community.
- 16:17We do have a Jewish
- 16:19faculty organization also,
- 16:20which I had dinner with
- 16:21the leadership yesterday.
- 16:22And if you reach out to me,
- 16:24I will be more than glad if this
- 16:26is something of interest to you
- 16:27to connect you to the leadership.
- 16:29Again, it's forming,
- 16:30but I do think that if you're interested,
- 16:33something to get on the ground
- 16:36and help organize SO leaders,
- 16:41how does that feel? How does that land
- 16:45orientation? Don't even know the
- 16:47bathrooms yet and I'm calling you a leader
- 16:52where you are. Each and every one
- 16:56of you is going to run a team,
- 16:59be in the clinical setting,
- 17:01be it a research team, be it education.
- 17:06Each and every one of you,
- 17:08as you walk down the halls,
- 17:10as you opine about whatever it is,
- 17:13you're going to have people looking
- 17:16up to you and modeling from you.
- 17:20Be it something positive that
- 17:21you said and encouraging or
- 17:23be it something negative.
- 17:25But everything that you say and
- 17:27do will be observed and modeled
- 17:33list. I'm sorry. Take a look in the mirror.
- 17:39Most of us had great mentors.
- 17:42Our science taught hobby clinicians
- 17:44taught us how to educate.
- 17:47The you of us have had mentors
- 17:49to teach us how to be a leader,
- 17:51which is an extraordinarily
- 17:53different skill set. Remember
- 17:57that cloud that we made that I asked you
- 18:00to please take a picture of? Nobody did.
- 18:05In the privacy of your own home.
- 18:08Look at it. Which are the skills that
- 18:11you already in bed and you're strong in.
- 18:14What are areas that you have a little growth?
- 18:19Just like you needed a mentor to get
- 18:21your science down and your clinical down,
- 18:23you may need help to actually
- 18:26get your leadership down.
- 18:28In many cases, it's a mentor.
- 18:30For many of us who are in leadership,
- 18:33we have an executive coach.
- 18:35But we have somebody to help us become
- 18:37the leaders that each and every
- 18:40person in our environment deserves.
- 18:46Listen, it's so awful.
- 18:49We become leaders.
- 18:50We think we have to know
- 18:52the answer to everything.
- 18:53We can't take any time to think.
- 18:55We just got to act.
- 18:58Amazing how much you are when
- 19:02you listen, Smart Man said.
- 19:04When you talk, you're only
- 19:06repeating what you already know.
- 19:10But when you listen, you may
- 19:12actually learn something.
- 19:18Again, I've parked on this already.
- 19:21Be very, very thoughtful when you're
- 19:23creating new collaborations with
- 19:25who you choose to collaborate with.
- 19:27Are they bringing you expertise?
- 19:31Are they bringing a different skill
- 19:32set or way of thinking about things?
- 19:34Because even that diversity.
- 19:35People who are more verbal versus visual,
- 19:38People who are more
- 19:40analytical versus intuitive,
- 19:42that diversity within itself actions
- 19:44also be shown to lead to their outcomes.
- 19:47Or are you bringing people in because
- 19:49you feel comfortable with them?
- 19:59Mentorship. Sponsorship.
- 20:00Anyone who talks to me more
- 20:01than 5 minutes will hear
- 20:03you talk about sponsorship.
- 20:07Again, as leaders, one of your major
- 20:09roles is to bring up the next generation
- 20:12and it helped them reach their goals.
- 20:15And again, I know for many of you who
- 20:17have not been here more than a day,
- 20:18but know the bathroom is,
- 20:21but the moment you form a team,
- 20:24people will be looking up to you.
- 20:27And part of that looking up is
- 20:29because they want to be you someday.
- 20:31Why I talked about this is,
- 20:32again, the data will show we're
- 20:34much more likely to mentor and
- 20:36sponsor people whom we see them in,
- 20:39us or us and them,
- 20:41I E people who are similar to us.
- 20:45Make sure whoever is on your team,
- 20:48they're getting equitable mentorship,
- 20:51equitable sponsorship,
- 20:52so that everybody on your team
- 20:56has the equal possibility of
- 20:59actually achieving differentness.
- 21:10When is the version on
- 21:10the team actually most important?
- 21:14Is it doing that Monday task?
- 21:16Is it doing that simple
- 21:18thing that one expert can do?
- 21:20Or is it when the brainstorming happens,
- 21:23when the problem solving happens?
- 21:26Actually, the diversity on
- 21:28the team actually is most
- 21:29beneficial in the brainstorming,
- 21:31the problem solving when you
- 21:33really want all ideas on the table.
- 21:38So you have to be sure that you're
- 21:41created for your team and environment
- 21:44that is psychologically safe.
- 21:47So when they're most minoritized in
- 21:49that space, marginalized in that space,
- 21:52stigmatized in that space,
- 21:54feels that they actually have a
- 21:57voice and they can contribute.
- 21:59Otherwise, it's toughenism.
- 22:08The most effective teams actually the
- 22:10teams that actually have a spirit
- 22:13of collaboration and the weak is
- 22:15the keyword versus individual eyes.
- 22:18So the more you can make create an
- 22:20environment culture within your team
- 22:22of collaboration and working together
- 22:24and that there's a higher purpose and
- 22:26their individual part of the project,
- 22:29the more you can remind your teams of
- 22:30that the better your outcomes will be.
- 22:37I'm not going to speak to the
- 22:38citizens of this because my dear
- 22:40Carla colleague who's going to talk
- 22:41next is going to talk in great depth.
- 22:43But what I am going to say
- 22:490 tolerance. If you really
- 22:53want a high functioning team,
- 22:56you cannot have toxicity.
- 23:00So often we find reasons to excuse
- 23:02toxicity over there are high achieved.
- 23:04Oh, they're really productive.
- 23:06Oh, they're just young.
- 23:10I can assure you more than just the
- 23:12individual and the person that's
- 23:14the recipients of the toxicity
- 23:17are affected by the toxicity.
- 23:19Here's a cancer that will affect
- 23:22your entire team and will decrease
- 23:25collaboration and communication.
- 23:27You are the leader.
- 23:29You set the tone,
- 23:31you set the culture and I beg you to
- 23:34set it as a no tolerance period so that
- 23:38everybody on the team, not just Mr.
- 23:41Mrs. Toxic can rhyme.
- 23:45And then lastly, and I'm going to jump
- 23:47and abort you to death. As leaders,
- 23:52please consider your responsibility
- 23:59to find and develop the
- 24:02potential those around you
- 24:06as individuals to find and
- 24:10develop the potential of Yale
- 24:12School of Medicine as a whole.
- 24:14I want to thank you for your time.